❗Climb-level Checklists

[Chicago Transplant]

Thanks Bill!

I have been slowly adding my expanded data, one hiccup I saw was that Route does not allow quotes and that comments replaced the closing quote when I used "S" Gully for Bross (no big deal, I just took the quotes off, I was using the quotes so it wouldn't look like South Gully)

[BillMiddlebrook]

Thanks Bill!

I have been slowly adding my expanded data, one hiccup I saw was that Route does not allow quotes and that comments replaced the closing quote when I used "S" Gully for Bross (no big deal, I just took the quotes off, I was using the quotes so it wouldn't look like South Gully)

Got it, thanks! I’ll fix that Wednesday morning.

[Chicago Transplant]

Thanks Bill!

I have been slowly adding my expanded data, one hiccup I saw was that Route does not allow quotes and that comments replaced the closing quote when I used "S" Gully for Bross (no big deal, I just took the quotes off, I was using the quotes so it wouldn't look like South Gully)

Got it, thanks! I’ll fix that Wednesday morning.

Thanks! Such service!

[BillMiddlebrook]

Haha. It’s good brain exercise during my morning coffee time.

[BillMiddlebrook]

Thanks Bill!

I have been slowly adding my expanded data, one hiccup I saw was that Route does not allow quotes and that comments replaced the closing quote when I used "S" Gully for Bross (no big deal, I just took the quotes off, I was using the quotes so it wouldn't look like South Gully)

The route will now accept quotes.

Also, since many of us have large checklists, I created a page to update the dates for ALL climbs with post-conversion placeholder dates. I couldn't include the memo and url fields because the page would be gigantic but this gives you a way to blast through the date changes by Range, Peak. This helpful link can be found in a note on the Checklist->Edit page for anyone with at least 50 placeholder dates. Just remember the link will be disappear from your checklist edit once you're below 50, so you might want to bookmark the link so you finish the rest. I just don't want the link to show up for everyone. That was a fairly complex page to build, so let me know if you see anything wonky.

[BillMiddlebrook]

The <Upgrade!> (to advanced) button is now available to everyone.

Thanks a bunch to those who were willing to test the initial pages and for all of the great suggestions!

[daway8]

Thanks Bill!

The "Edit All" is a great feature when converting old lists.

Also, the "include more peaks" is going to be great for easily entering those combo climbs!

This really upgrades the ability to track more info on the site - thanks for all the work on this!

[BillMiddlebrook]

My pleasure.

With checklist->edit upgrades completed, I'll start thinking about new queries and filters that can be included to take advantage of the additional data.

[madmattd]

Yes, thanks Bill! I hit the upgrade button, at first blush all seemed to go well, but my lists are pretty simple compared to many here - hence I didn't (perhaps foolishly) throw my hat in the beta-test ring. I'll go through and double-check data on them all when I get time.

The new editing and ascent lists are awesome!

A note on my 2 multi-ascents:
- Bierstadt, both in winter. My most recent ascent (this past weekend) had the correct date and relevant checkboxes (winter, 3k, solo). The original ascent had no checkboxes filled in and had an ascent date of July 1, 2019 (was actually in March, 2018).
- Elbert, within a few days (but 2 years apart) of each other. The most recent one came through fine on the date but without any checkboxes (possibly I didn't click on any back then), but the older one again had the July 1, 2019 date assigned, and both "solo" and "3k gained" boxes checked (correct state on the checkboxes).

I assume July 1, 2019 is being used for any old ascents as the "default date" warned about during the upgrade process? I'm assuming this is intended behavior since you were only storing most recent ascent date before? I was surprised (pleasantly) to see the checkboxes sort of come through correctly!

I guess the cautionary tale to others upgrading is to double-check any duplicate ascents as dates and potentially checkboxes that you may have selected might need to be fixed!

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One small feature request - in the "routes" field for ascents (old and new), can the same dropdown list that appears for Peak Conditions entries be leveraged? I don't mind manually typing them in each time, but the drop down would be awesome!

Bill, you rock!

[BillMiddlebrook]

Yes, some arbitrary, default dates (I.e. placeholders) were used because the conversion is adding climb records without having your actual climb dates.

Here's what happens. I'll place this information on the conversion page so users aren't confused by the outcome:

• If a peak didn't have the "Most Recent Climb" date (most people don't) filled in, the conversion doesn't have a date to work with. So, arbitrary dates of 1/1/2021 and 7/1/2021 were used. 1/1/2021 for peaks marked "climbed in winter."
• If the "Most Recent Climb" date was set for a peak on your old list, the 1st climb will get that date, so it's not lost. Subsequent climbs would get 7/1/2021.
• The 1st climb entry gets all of the winter/ski/solo/3k checkboxes, as well as notes and links, if any.

For example, if you had 3 climbs of Mt. Elbert on your basic checklist and checked "Climbed in Calendar Winter," the resulting climbs would be:
1) 1/1/2021 and checked for winter and any other checks or info
2) 7/1/2021 with no other checkmarks or info
3) 7/1/2021 with no other checkmarks or info

In the end, if the user doesn't care to update the dates to their actual climb dates, the post-conversion data still allows the checklist to be displayed with all of the proper number for climbs, winter, ski, etc.

I hope that makes sense.
Thanks!

[BillMiddlebrook]

I placed an explanation on the pre-conversion confirmation page AND at the bottom of any peak->edit climbs page that ended up with placeholder dates. Here's an example of Mt. Parnasus on my converted 13er checklist. I had checked winter (and the other checkboxes) but did not have a most recent climb date on the basic list:

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[madmattd]

Yes, some arbitrary, default dates (I.e. placeholders) were used because the conversion is adding climb records without having your actual climb dates.

Here's what happens. I'll place this information on the conversion page so users aren't confused by the outcome:

• If a peak didn't have the "Most Recent Climb" date (most people don't) filled in, the conversion doesn't have a date to work with. So, arbitrary dates of 1/1/2021 and 7/1/2021 were used. 1/1/2021 for peaks marked "climbed in winter."
• If the "Most Recent Climb" date was set for a peak on your old list, the 1st climb will get that date, so it's not lost. Subsequent climbs would get 7/1/2021.
• The 1st climb entry gets all of the winter/ski/solo/3k checkboxes, as well as notes and links, if any.

For example, if you had 3 climbs of Mt. Elbert on your basic checklist and checked "Climbed in Calendar Winter," the resulting climbs would be:
1) 1/1/2021 and checked for winter and any other checks or info
2) 7/1/2021 with no other checkmarks or info
3) 7/1/2021 with no other checkmarks or info

In the end, if the user doesn't care to update the dates to their actual climb dates, the post-conversion data still allows the checklist to be displayed with all of the proper number for climbs, winter, ski, etc.

I hope that makes sense.
Thanks!

Makes perfect sense, pretty much as I thought. Thanks for the explanation (plus adding it to the log page)!!!